Thanks. Yes. The next stack coming out focuses on the equivalence of science and sanity. Science is communal sanity.
It starts with this quote from Wittgenstein
“The ‘problems’ in philosophy are solved, not by giving new information, but by arranging what we have always known. Philosophy is a battle against the bewitchment of our intelligence by language.”
Ludwig Wittgenstein, Philosophical Investigations
The two colour protocol needs sliding in below everything else as foundation.
When you claim that we can never attain absolute truth because of the limitations of our senses, why are you stating it as if it is an absolute truth rather than just a belief?
You are rambling incoherently with meaningless words because yoy have no clarity at all about what you are attempting to address.
It is not ‘confusing pink stuff for green stuff’ to point out that ‘confusing pink stuff for green stuff’ is a problem and us always confusing pink stuff for green stuff.
Faith is the absence of delusion? Just the title keeps me from wanting to read farther because that is absolutely the opposite of reality. When I am told by some self appointed anointed of "god" preacher to leave my reason, logic and common sense at the threshold of the building the deluded gather in, and "believe by faith"... I'm gone. My creator gave me and everyone else REASON, which when applied with common sense and logic will lead to a critically thought our result. FAITH is BELIEVING rather than KNOWING. I prefer to know. When evidence abounds to the reality of a creator, that is my basis for believing in a creator. Not some book that has been written by men claiming to be "anointed" by God that is full of contradictions, errors and outright insane actions supposedly made by godly men and women. Can we agree to at least reject man made government run by psychopathic control freak PARASITES?
I often replace the word ‘faith’ with ‘assumption’. I know that God exists, it’s an assumption I make when dealing with matters of the world.
Science makes assumptions: that there is a world that can be studied objectively, that time runs in a forward direction and causes come before effects, that we live in a 3-dimensional universe (plus time of course), that thoughts don’t effect outcomes, that the idea of repeatability in experiments is a valid one and so on.
When people say science is based on facts and religion is based on beliefs, I tell them that science and religion are both based on different assumptions.
Science Faith Sanity absolutely make no assumptions. That is brown stuff. Science is the avoidance of brown stuff. Faith is the absence of it. Scepticism = doub = science = faith = sanity
No assumptions ever. Keep the .green and the pink clearly separate.
If you use Faith to mean belief you can go ahead. What word do use for:
Striving purposefully forward in an as yet unknown direction.
It doesn’t matter what you mean by these words. The point of the essay is that eliminating brown stuff is perfectly possible and anything else is madness.
Thanks. Yes. The next stack coming out focuses on the equivalence of science and sanity. Science is communal sanity.
It starts with this quote from Wittgenstein
“The ‘problems’ in philosophy are solved, not by giving new information, but by arranging what we have always known. Philosophy is a battle against the bewitchment of our intelligence by language.”
Ludwig Wittgenstein, Philosophical Investigations
The two colour protocol needs sliding in below everything else as foundation.
When you claim that we can never attain absolute truth because of the limitations of our senses, why are you stating it as if it is an absolute truth rather than just a belief?
Degrees of certainty means nothing.
Certainty is insanity that confuses pink for green.
You can’t have degrees of being delusional. You are delusional then you are delusional.
Certainty is the exact same concept as delusion and insanity.
Confusing the pretend for the real:. You can’t have degrees of it!
Science = the elimination of belief
There is no belief in science. In pseudoscience yes.
You should indeed not force your beliefs = delusions on others.
So why do you believe that it's the limitations of our senses which prevent us from knowing absolute truth?
Could it not just be our beliefs that are responsible?
I have no idea what you are saying.
I have never once mentioned the limit of our senses nor have I mentioned absolute truth.
You must be confusing it with a different article.
My question was in reply to ebear's comment above.
Ah! Sorry!
This is total nonsense. No belief can ever be true by definition .
You are talking utter nonsense. How do you define belief?
You are rambling incoherently with meaningless words because yoy have no clarity at all about what you are attempting to address.
It is not ‘confusing pink stuff for green stuff’ to point out that ‘confusing pink stuff for green stuff’ is a problem and us always confusing pink stuff for green stuff.
To be frank, it is bleedin’ obvious.
Ah! Looked at your profile.
You are just a troll
Banning you in 10 minutes.
Fire away fool. No great loss. I'd forgotten I even commented here.
Debate is stupid always. I would always eliminate it not limit it. It’s stupid battling.
Discussion reaches awareness not debate.
Faith is the absence of delusion? Just the title keeps me from wanting to read farther because that is absolutely the opposite of reality. When I am told by some self appointed anointed of "god" preacher to leave my reason, logic and common sense at the threshold of the building the deluded gather in, and "believe by faith"... I'm gone. My creator gave me and everyone else REASON, which when applied with common sense and logic will lead to a critically thought our result. FAITH is BELIEVING rather than KNOWING. I prefer to know. When evidence abounds to the reality of a creator, that is my basis for believing in a creator. Not some book that has been written by men claiming to be "anointed" by God that is full of contradictions, errors and outright insane actions supposedly made by godly men and women. Can we agree to at least reject man made government run by psychopathic control freak PARASITES?
Try reading it!
And this!
https://open.substack.com/pub/beyondcertainty/p/science-the-avoidance-of-delusion
Faith is the rejection of ALL belief, all certainty
You conflate Faith with belief.
Why attack what you haven’t examined?
My position is probably EXACTLY the same as yours on this.
Good stuff here, Tim West. Thank you for sharing.
I often replace the word ‘faith’ with ‘assumption’. I know that God exists, it’s an assumption I make when dealing with matters of the world.
Science makes assumptions: that there is a world that can be studied objectively, that time runs in a forward direction and causes come before effects, that we live in a 3-dimensional universe (plus time of course), that thoughts don’t effect outcomes, that the idea of repeatability in experiments is a valid one and so on.
When people say science is based on facts and religion is based on beliefs, I tell them that science and religion are both based on different assumptions.
Science Faith Sanity absolutely make no assumptions. That is brown stuff. Science is the avoidance of brown stuff. Faith is the absence of it. Scepticism = doub = science = faith = sanity
No assumptions ever. Keep the .green and the pink clearly separate.
If you use Faith to mean belief you can go ahead. What word do use for:
Striving purposefully forward in an as yet unknown direction.
It doesn’t matter what you mean by these words. The point of the essay is that eliminating brown stuff is perfectly possible and anything else is madness.
As mentioned in A Course In Miracles “words are but symbols of symbols and thus twice removed from reality”.
As a rapper (currently) I REALLY better not take them too seriously.